Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? Their flagship product, the EdenPURE infrared heater, was first launched in 2007. That is the real savings. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Lowering your home's thermostat(s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heatingwill cut your utility bill. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Unfortunately, most don't pay enough attention or don't care about the consumer. Thanks for the good info that saved me. I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. Energy savings will be the same either way. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. Heat is the movement of air molecules. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. In some situations yes but in some no. Common sense. Services may be provided by Western Union Financial Services, Inc. NMLS# 906983 and/or Western Union International Services, LLC NMLS# 906985, which are licensed as Money Transmitters by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. Any electric heater is 100% efficient. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. I guess not. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. of insurance. If I spend less, good. Solve this simple math problem and enter the result. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. Question: Is any heater like this okayed by Insurance companies? (Every degree you lower the thermostat(s) can save you about 2 percent on your heating bill.) Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. You are dead wrong pilgrim. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. But if you're going to buy a space heater, you don't have to shell out $400 or more for the EdenPure Gen 3 Model 1000. Many have been running now for well over 5 years and run almost constantly all winter long. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. It seems to have been expurgated from their current advertising. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. That's right. As a local family owned company that has been in business for over 30 years, we continue to value the trust you have placed with us to provide your families and homes with professional, reliable and affordable Heating, Cooling & Indoor Air Quality solutions. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. Also Bob Villa states Zone heating (room or smaller area) not the whole house. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. Felt bad for the guy. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. Though I dont know why you would want to. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. I will not call this a scam. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. 2 Guys with a beard does not equal credibility. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. It will cost more. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! Hmmm, think about it. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. I tried to return the heater and it has been a running around to find the right place where I purchased it from. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Thank you so much! So, for those looking for a way to reduce your bills, why don't you have your attic better insulated, replace your windows (if needed), and have a new heating unit or units installed, finance it all, and pay the extra on the payments instead of on the extra electricity you are using now. the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) etc. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. So, all is not equal definitely. perputhen live stream / joshua andrews obituary. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. They are usually a rip-off. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard. Just don't turn on your heat. Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. rooms for rent in. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. This is the second blog I have complained on. Endenpure I dont know till I get it. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. For the same heat output, electrical heaters are way more expensive than heating with a fuel like natural gas. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about Once again use your heads and think about what you need. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. In the end, remember that electric space heaters in and of themselves can't save you energy and lower your utility bills over the winter. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. Until recently, Eden Pure ads claimed their technology was based on the serendipitous finding by some farmer named "John Jones." Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. William Burkett, William Lee Burkett, William L Burkett and William B Burkett are some of the alias or nicknames that Bill has used. If it heats, cools, moves air or water, we do it. Browse Locations. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. Regular price. I don't believe people can stay comfortable in their homes with just a space heater, so I don't believe they'll reduce your heating bills in half. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure, Program your thermostat and lower the temperature inside your home so it is closer to the temperature outside. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). For those of you who have high summer bills, I saved $1500 over the spring and summer months by setting my thermostat on 80 degrees and using floor fans (not box fans, but those on a stand, those that put out a lot of air). I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. Its safer than most to. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. Question: What is a radiant barrier? She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Any way, thank you. My electric bill actually increased. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. for 1+3, enter 4. FACT: Of course it will. The heater is a point source of heat. PERIOD. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. Dose the Edenpure save you money? Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. EdenPURE Classic CopperPLUS Heater $272.00 $399.00 Best Sellers EdenPURE 3000 Whole House Air Purifier by AirFree $299.00 $374.00 EdenPURE GEN50 Infrared Heater $297.00 $399.00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247.00 $447.00 EdenPURE Bio SpeedCLEAN Cordless Vac - Model XL200 $249.00 $299.00 EdenPURE GEN21 EdenPURE All Season Heater $279.00 $447.00 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. How can heated ceramic plates absorb water? Some people still can't get it. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. Just picked one from trash. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. 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