They seem to have But now, in another recent publication Ancient Mysteries by Peter James and Nick Thorpe this mystery is also uncloaked as a hoax or a lie perpetrated by Griaule. History Debunked then goes on to demonstrate the type of pseudo-scientific nonsense this has lead to by providing a link to an Ethnomathematics paper and reading out its conclusion. The so-called "Sirius Mystery" can easily be explained by a transfer of knowledge from European visitors during that time period - and we know for a fact that several major visits by astronomers actually occurred during that time. The Symbolism of the Tarot: The Minor Arcana, The Symbolism of the Tarot: The Major Arcana, My Reading with Kristine from Psychic Source Review, Get the best Psychic Reading Ever Best Psychics Ive Reviewed, The Cathars: the struggle for and of a new Church, The Strange Stone Discs of Baian-Kara-Ula, William Blake: What paintings of visions come. Sirius was already the subject of a mystery concerning the traditional lore of the Dogon tribe of Mali, near Timbuktu in western Africa. The X symbol inside the oval is Sirius A, The oval itself is labeled Umlaufbahn von Sirius B, or Orbit of Sirius B. Pretty convincing. companion" (Bullard). either in daily life or in ritual [to the Dogon]. The diagram is only convincing as a representation of Sirius B orbiting Sirius A when most of the original symbols are eliminated. Based on Carrolls website (skepdic.com), the Dictionary is the definitive short-answer debunking of nearly every thing skeptical. Temple claimed that the Dogon knew about two smaller stars that are closely related to Sirius Sirius B and Sirius C. The mystery was how they had obtained this knowledge, as these companion stars cannot be seen by the unaided eye. Also, why would the Dogan people not divulge where they received such recent knowledge of transfer if they had of gotten this knowledge from Europeans. But it is an unfortunate tendency for certain reviewers to wish to try and appear clever at the expense of accuracy, honesty, objectivity, fairness, or even decent manners, by dropping any standards at all in their headlong assaults on authors using only the tools of distortion, dishonesty, and insults. "At first glance," Sagan admitted, "the Sirius legend of the Dogon seems Hmm, The Cardiff Giant, one of the most celebrated hoaxes in American history, on display at the Farmers Museum in Cooperstown, NY. Where did they get this knowledge, he asks, if not from pieces of evidence is the tribe's alleged knowledge of Sirius B, a companion to the star It was popularized in an episode from the In Search of television series narrated by Leonard Nimoy. To recapitulate: Griaule claimed to have been initiated into the secret mysteries of the male Dogon, during which they allegedly told him of Sirius (sigu tolo in their language) and its two invisible companions. For Siwa, I called Dr. Farouk EI-Baz of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, and his maps showed it at 25.50 degE, 29.22 degN (that's the oasis center, with the modern town about ten kilometers SE). One of the problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit us come from. According to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. In 1952, Young was one of nine people present during the first contact with the Council, an event initiated by Andrija Puharich, the man who brought Israeli spoonbender Uri Geller to America. Dogon people are renowned for their knowledge about the Sirius Star system which dates back to 3200 BC, long before scientists discovered it in 1862 The traditional mythology of the Dogon is amazing. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. The biggest challenge to Griaule, however, came from anthropologist Walter Van Beek. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. The Dogon legend connected with Sirius, wrote Ridpath, "is riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally." WebThe star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. Encyclopedia Galactica,, Benest, D. and J. L. Duvent. Such criteria suggest that these periodic festivals have been going on for at least 600 years and possibly much longer. The oldest traces of life on Earth go back to about that time. Try my free online Rune Readings! And does the Dogon mythology ever really say that Nommo, the founder Meanwhile the Dogon myths continue to baffle investigators. Y%gbsPFur[%X7Sz (OK, but if it's not true then Temple may suddenly discover that, as in another similar case, "the Dogon information must be not only garbled (or perhaps concealed in line with a secretive tradition) but only partially true." York: Random House, 1995). knowledge of the satellites of Jupiter and rings of Saturn, among other Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. Given that the French stayed in their territory for five weeks and had several local guides, it would not be surprising if they shared some astronomical knowledge during that time. Temple's theory is heavily based on his interpretation of the work of ethnographers Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved These same myths, Temple claims, identify a planet circling that star as the home of Nommo, an alien creature who founded the Dogon civilization. WebRe: Dogon Sirius claim debunked - Graham Hancock Official Website Mysteries Taken from [ library.thinkquest.org] According to the Dogon priests, Sirius is orbited by a tiny secret star that they refer to as 'po', which traces an elliptical path around Sirius taking 50 years to Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. Astronomers classify Sirius as a "class A" star, hotter and younger than our sun, Its brightness is due largely to its proximity; it is barely eight light- years away from the earth. [15] An apparent "third star" observed in the 1920s is now confirmed as a background object,[16] something previously suggested by Holberg in 2007: Benest and Duvent found that stable orbits with a period of up to six years exist around Sirius A. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. Temple has either misinterpreted Dogon beliefs, or distorted complete diagram that the Dogon showed to the French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen, who were the original It seems that Temples ideas are still popular among practitioners of pseudoarcheology, as well as with the general public. The Dogon are a people of about 100,000 who dwell in western Africa. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and Worse still, hundreds of thousands of years ago, Sirius B was a dying red giant. September 1976 saw It is also possible to conclude that such a star could in no way be responsible for the flurry of sightings from the 1920s, it would be too faint and too close to Sirius A to have ever been seen by visual observers.[17]. seem curious. Sirius B was known to exist then. Unfortunately the ancient records contain no clear, unambiguous references to this Sirius lore although the works of historians, astronomers and philosophers were explicit and detailed on innumerable other subjects. I assumed, reasonably I.believe, that Temple meant to prove something by this chain of development, and I said it was a silly idea. his informants in such a forceful leading manner that they created new space. Below: The Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (discovered in 2003) is the nearest known galaxy to the centre of the Milky Way. ;WI)hK>U/sW_: v* &73DUI*y|07s^gQ7ni[khi4o2vA[a20?D-C[;,!vgejZE-,I51.cWS,?4#_}dpU4I[, w.Mi>Z@iOa:ia](i}29pit+ K#x>0nzDS%c7iN}%37Y-f 1Yvq'Nm=~-%#bO*O44*4%Aj Wi On this episode of MonsterTalk we chat with archeologist Dr. Ken Feder about giants, biblical archeology and one of the biggest hoaxes in American history. by Liam McDaid. Feature Articles Dogon shame Did ancient gods from the Sirius star system visit an African tribe 5,000 years ago? Though Temples work was challenged, at its core lay the original anthropological study of the Dogon by Griaule and Dieterlen, who describe the secret knowledge of Sirius B and Sirius C in their own book The Pale Fox. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. A must for every bookshelf.ORDER the book, It seems clear that the Dogon did indeed get their information from other cultures. This is the original Dogon drawing. WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. They all have one thing in common: enormous monsters. More recent research suggests that the contaminator was Griaule himself. The antiquity of the Dogon astronomy is not so obvious as ancient astronaut enthusiasts claim but neither has it been disproved. It is important to look at the assumptions and implications of the claims made about the Dogon. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. A critical analysis has to investigate the accuracy of such claims, so as to judge the validity of the book's conclusions. ), There were Giants in the earthin those days Genesis 6:1. amphibious aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin. Swift appears to have taken the idea of two close (although not necessarily small) moons of Mars from Voltaire's novel Micromegos in which an Fishs map and Hills map look similar only because the lines connecting the stars look the same. WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. sources for Temple's story. Liam is the author of Urban Astronomy and is a Senior Scientist for Skeptic. Afrocentrists, on the other hand, claimed that the Dogon could see One group says the Dogon got their information from aliens from the Sirian system called Nommos. Obviously, no Earth-based species was flying to other stars back then! The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. But Fishs map used an arbitrary viewpoint in space. Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. hVt*f+"c2aC-w.EJ|@F[VXLV~oo>l B>xU.9y'nYnZ6aBlc3y&A%M]XME The Skeptics Society is a non-profit, Sagan, Carl 1980. And this is what Mr. Oberg has done." Instead, he closed his response to my own article in 1979 with a brushoff: "In my view it is pointless to attack someone in print unless you can substantiate what you are saying. It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them. Could a remote African people have gained esoteric knowledge about the sky without having telescopes? According to Thomas Bullard, van Beek speculates that Griaule The main problem with the alleged antiquity of the Dogon "Sirius secrets" legend is that they are reminiscent of European Sirius speculations of the late 1920s. star" (Sirius B) and describe its density and rotational Whatever their place in the search for extraterrestrial contact, the Dogon myths are certainly odd. Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. Because Sirius B moves from 8 to 31 AU distance from Sirius A, it is unlikely that planets orbiting Sirius A would have stable orbits. In a recent book, The Once and Future Star (Hawthorn Books, 1977), George Michanowsky identifies "Oannes" as a Hellenized version of the Sumerian name Ea; he ), Another example: "The Dogon also mention a period of rotation of Sirius- Bone yearthis (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. The Dogon Revisited Temple does not argue that contact with an advanced civilization is the only way that the Dogon could have obtained what he understood to be accurate information on Sirius B, but he indicates that he personally finds the theory of alien contact more convincing. The Dogon. WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . Review. Paranormal, ed. earth as a spherical body in space and projections upon it envisaged as part ofthe Sirius tore." At the latitude of Egypt, over distances of several hundred kilometers, planetary curvature introduces distortions only on the order of fractions of kilometers, not the tens of kilometers worth of inaccuracies I found in Temple's claim. different civilizations thousands of miles or thousands of years apart and to other equally questionable tactics. So it merely remains for any interested reader to check and see which of us is correct. Young was a fervent believer in the Council of Nine, a mysterious group of channelled entities that claim to be the nine creator gods of ancient Egypt. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. Using similar techniques other writers have "discovered" dozens of different, often contradictory "ancient secrets" about Atlantis, primitive Christianity, forgotten wisdom, ancient visitors and numerous other things. 68-70. Griaule, Marcel. Temples response to criticism has so far been evasive. Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. This is strange, because one would think that it would be a major discovery in anthropology. by Philip Coppens. It is a type of fuel that can lead to what Clay Farris Naff cleverly calls the neuron bomb. In this post, Michael Shermer asks, Is there a moral standard that stands above all the worlds religions that is based on some transcendent source?. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. (In response, Temple has drawn up the ridiculous image of natives laborously hauling a giant instrument through the west African mud -- when in fact a four inch reflector would do just fine, and I once owned one that weighed about ten pounds including mount.) implausible notions such as the claim that the Dogon got their knowledge Temple, however, has stated in the reprint of The Sirius Mystery (1999) that he in no way supports what he refers to as "sinister cults" that have been inspired by his book. I disagree. Some might argue that if there were a planet really close to Sirius A, it could be in a stable orbit. % After being surprised that an astromomy association would, after all this time, bother to publish such an article, I did a web search and found that in 1997 Robert Temple published a second edition of the book that started it all TheSirius Mystery in which he addressed none of the main criticisms that had been directed against the first edition, published in 1976. The review was indeed consequently modified in parts where Temple explained portions of his book I may have misinterpreted. Predictions are often reinterpreted to fit any outcome, which makes them scientifically worthless but which can be claimed to verify the pseudo- scientific claims. van Beek, Walter E. A. Nothing fuels religious extremism more than the belief that one has found the absolute moral truth. Qr*OJhiglNKc}{9GdA Mlt^+nR-Sp-f.y-`Pg##uAQDu&W&HM~IK{%uAM'bRV A\Z.4gAHU*j,H( rPaf@)2j
October 1977 saw Marvin Luckermann's "More Sirius Difficulties," on ancient calendar systems and an alternate, non- extraterrestrial explanation for the ancient fascination with the number fifty (the article quotes Michael Astour's book Hellenosemitics as saying, "This exorbitant figure, very popular in Greek myths, has its explanation: it is the number of seven-day weeks in one lunar year. E. "Ancient Astronauts," in, McDaid, Liam. (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. When Walter van Beek studied the Dogon, he WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. But it is apparent that Temple was not aware of Van Beeks devastating research. I disagree wit deeee72. ancient Egypt.*. Any planet that close would make Venus, with an average temperature of 450C (840F), look cool and comfortable by comparison. This proves that geodetic surveys of immense accuracy were thus practiced in ancient Egypt with a knowledge of the earth as a spherical body in space and projections upon it envisaged as part of the Sirius lore.". Giants appear in cultures around the world: Biblical tales of giants more than ten feet tall; Roman and Greek stories of titans and heroes; European stories of giants of mountain and hill. WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. But here's the rub: there is no archaeological evidence that the specific references to the twin hidden companions of Sirius are anywhere near that old. Ridpath asserts. (And presumably, that the Egyptians then located their river deltas, eases, and river ports deliberately on geometric rather than purely geographical grounds, I'm tempted to ask?) What about Sirius? sun and the phases of the moon are more pertinent for Dogon reckoning. She claimed an alien starship commander had originally shown it to her. The inspiration for this claim was a star map produced by Betty Hill while under hypnosis. to other visible stars near Sirius as recognition of the invisible In the 1930s, when their research was carried out, Sirius B was known to have existed, even though it was only photographed in 1970. A substantial bulk of The Sirius Mystery consists of comparative linguistic and mythological scholarship, pointing out resemblances among Dogon, Yoruba, Egyptian and Sumerian beliefs and symbols. informed the Dogon of Sirius B or "he misinterpreted their references In 1966, Temple then aged 21 became Secretary of Youngs Foundation for the Study of Consciousness. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. [8][9], In 1978, astronomer Ian Ridpath observes, in an article in the Skeptical Inquirer, "The whole Dogon legend of Sirius and its companions are riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally. | 3938 State St., Suite # 101, Santa Barbara, CA, 93105-3114 | 1-805-576-9396. e issued monthly by the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles. Sirius B was first observed in 1862, and had been predicted in 1844 on dynamic grounds. The Demon-Haunted World - Science as a Candle in the Dark (New The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. This sounds significant and convincing until one measures the distance on a map and discovers an "immensely accurate equality" of a twenty percent difference! E. "Ancient Astronauts," in The Encyclopedia of the some 8.6 light years from earth. How did the Dogon obtain this knowledge? Nevertheless the Sumerian Oannes myths, first described by Sagan and Shklovskiy in Intelligent Life in the Universe in 1966, are as intriguing as ever. astronomical information. (Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books,1982), pp. Investigating Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. Appleby also believes there exists a modern arrogance that cannot countenance the idea that ancient civilisations might have been scientifically superior. But didn't Isaac Asimov check over the book for just such factual errors, as the publisher claims? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Stone Age storytellers speak by their campfires of other people on other planets and of other mysteries. Temples solution referred to legends of a mythical creature, the god Oannes, who might have been an extraterrestrial, described as descending to Earth from the stars to bring civilising wisdom to the Dogon forefathers. Zeta Reticuli 2 (with about the same temperature and mass as the Sun) is another candidate. Noah Brosch explained in his book Sirius Matters that cultural transfer could have taken place between 19th century French astronomers and Dogon tribe members during the observations of the solar eclipse on 16 April 1893. Credulous scholars, like Young and Temple, were taken in and through them a whole generation has swallowed the false mythology of aliens from the Dark Sirius Companion. This article appeared in Fortean Times. Lets start with the first idea, proffered by Robert Temple.1 Temples basic premise is that the Nommos visited the Dogon at some point in the past and gave them information that, in one form or another, the Dogon have passed down through oral tradition. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Bullard, Thomas. He points out that Griaule and Dieterlen stand alone in their claims about the Dogon secret knowledge. Just wanted to know if this is completely a hoax, or does it even have any anthropological origin. To penetrate this supposed disguise (which might not be a disguise at all, other classical scholars maintain), Temple resorts to ancient puns, to hidden meanings, to "garbled versions" which he must amend to fit the theory, to the exchange of consonants in innocent-looking words, to similar-sounding words from Furthermore, most Dogon symbology already has multiple levels of meaning; the sketches used to illustrate the Sirius secrets are also used in puberty ceremonies. The two anthropologists who first studied the Dogon (Griaule and Deiterlen) conducted their research in the 1930s. WebThe Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius (see the main article on the Dogon for a discussion of their astronomical knowledge). based his account on an interview with one person, Ambara, and an Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. In 1965, Arthur Young gave Robert Temple a French article on the secret star lore of the Dogon, an article written by two French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. Temples They conclude that Temple was very keen to please his mentor, who believed in extraterrestrial beings from Sirius. Greek and Arab myths and words are considered to a lesser extent. He has written of Temples belief that present-day authorities are unwilling to set aside the blinkers of orthodoxy, unable to admit the validity of anything that lies outside their field or that offers a challenge to the status quo. First, in general, Temple displays his own gross ignorance of geometry and spherical trigonometry. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. They point out that the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians used spherical lenses6 (even though they are a bad choice to use in telescopes try seeing an image through a glass bead). (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. Unfortunately he neglects to mention other bas-reliefs which show "fish-deer" and "fish-lions" and which consequently suggest that the fish motif was symbolic, not descriptive. extremely dense and has a fifty-year orbit. To Temple, this proved that "geodetic surveys of immense accuracy were thus practiced in ancient Egypt with a knowledge of the For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. Also, in the 1980s and 1990s, anthropologist Walter van Beek could find no evidence that the Dogon possessed knowledge about Sirius B today.9 But more enlightening is the fact that Griaule studied astronomy in Paris and brought star maps with him to Mali. Even if you allow for a much higher biological mutation rate on any Sirian planet compared to the Earth, it still isnt enough time. Temple's book is indeed extremely long and many other researchers have echoed Asimov's assertion that it is "unreadable." But the extraterrestrial hypothesis will not fade away so easily. He certainly did not have permission to use that statement as part of the promotion, I'11 just have to be even more careful hereafter.". He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. The tribe has a periodic Sirius festival called the "Segui" ceremony; each celebration lasts several years (the last was in 1968-72.) Subscribe to eSkeptic: our free email newsletter and get great podcasts, videos, reviews and articles from Skeptic magazine, announcements, and more in your inbox once or twice a week. WebThe star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. With this, the Dogon mystery comes crashing down. Journalist and skeptic James Oberg collected claims concerning Dogon mythology in his 1982 book UFOs and Outer Space Mysteries. Liam McDaid is Astronomy Coordinator and Professor of Astronomy at Sacramento City College. "their purpose in disguising their secrets was to see that the secrets could survive.". Also it would take a very good set of lenses to see Sirius B, which has an apparent magnitude of 8.44 and a separation from Sirius A of 10 arcseconds (0.3% of a 1 angle) under the best conditions. Although we can occasionally claim victory (are there any alchemists left? Temple claims that bas-reliefs of the Sumerian demigod Oannes, which depict a "fish man," prove Nommo, whom the author identifies as the ancestor of the Dogon Nommo myths, was an amphibious extraterrestrial. Temple offered another line of reasoning. All rights reserved. Copyright 19922023. by Philip Coppens. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. The stars in this group are too young only a few tens of millions of years for planets with life and civilization to have developed. 11.1. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. The brightest star in the sky is Sirius, now called Sirius A. %PDF-1.4 Europeans too believed that the "white dwarf' Sirius-B star was the heaviest thing in the universe, although in later years astronomers were to find WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. 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